www.ElPasoCountyTermLimits.com
 

In November of 2010,
If You Voted to Limit Terms,

You Actually Extended the Term Limits from
Existing Two Terms to Three Terms.
 

Do You Feel the Wording Was
Deceptive & Misleading?

Voters have expressed concern that
THEY INTENDED TO LIMIT TERMS

 - NOT EXTEND THEM -  

THE COMMISSIONERS ARE CONTINUING TO DISCUSS THIS ISSUE
 PROPOSED BALLOT WORDING CHANGES – proposed for approval THURSDAY, AUGUST 30, 2012
Board of County Commissioner’s Meeting 9:00 AM @ Centennial Hall

BALLOT WORDING APPROVED & CERTIFIED IN 2011 FOR 2012 Nov ELECTION

 PROPOSED BALLOT WORDING CHANGES - Centennial Hall 9 am THURS, AUG 30, 2012


“SHALL THE VOTERS OF EL PASO COUNTY PERMIT ANY PERSON ELECTED TO THE OFFICES OF COUNTY CLERK AND RECORDER, COUNTY SURVEYOR, COUNTY ASSESSOR, COUNTY TREASURER, COUNTY COMMISSIONER, IN ANY ELECTION HELD AFTER THE NOV. 6, 2012 GENERAL ELECTION, TO RUN FOR AND, IF
ELECTED, SERVE A MAXIMUM OF THREE CONSECUTIVE FOUR-YEAR TERMS, THEREBY ALLOWING THE CITIZENS OF EL PASO COUNTY THE OPPORTUNITY TO RETAIN THE HOLDERS OF THESE OFFICES FOR 12 YEARS IF THE VOTERS SO DESIRE, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT A VOTE OF ‘NO’ WILL REDUCE THE EXISTING THREE-TERM LIMIT TO TWO CONSECUTIVE FOUR-YEAR TERMS AND A VOTE OF ‘YES’ WILL PRESERVE THE CURRENT VOTER APPROVED LIMIT OF THREE CONSECUTIVE FOUR-YEAR TERMS?”


“SHALL THE VOTERS OF EL PASO COUNTY PROHIBIT ANY PERSON ELECTED TO THE
OFFICES OF COUNTY CLERK AND RECORDER, COUNTY SURVEYOR, COUNTY
ASSESSOR, COUNTY TREASURER, COUNTY COMMISSIONER, IN ANY ELECTION
HELD AFTER THE NOVEMBER 6, 2012 GENERAL ELECTION, FROM RUNNING FOR AND IF ELECTED SERVING A MAXIMUM OF THREE CONSECUTIVE FOUR YEAR TERMS,
THEREBY DENYING THE CITIZENS OF EL PASO COUNTY THE OPPORTUNITY TO
RETAIN THE HOLDERS OF THESE OFFICES FOR 12 YEARS IF THE VOTERS SO DESIRE,
WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT A VOTE OF “YES” WILL REDUCE THE EXISTING
THREE-TERM LIMIT TO TWO CONSECUTIVE FOUR-YEAR TERMS AND A VOTE OF “NO” WILL PRESERVE THE CURRENT VOTER APPROVED LIMIT OF THREE CONSECUTIVE FOUR-YEAR TERMS?”

IT APPEARS THEY ARE RESTRICTING DISCUSSION SOLELY TO THE “YES” AND “NO” ISSUE…..

 “SUMMARY (including information on budgeted matters):  Resolution to amend the previously approved term limits ballot question solely for the purpose of switching the effects of the "yes" and "no" votes.”

HOWEVER, NOTE THE OTHER WORD CHANGES THEY HAVE MADE (HIGHLIGHTED ABOVE).  ESSENTIALLY THE MEANING OF THE ENTIRE BALLOT PROPOSAL HAS NOT BEEN CHANGED, IT HAS BEEN MODIFIED TO REPRESENT THE PREVIOUS UNACCEPTABLE BALLOT LANGUAGE, BY REVERSING PERMIT/TO PROHIBIT,  TO RUN/FROM RUNNING, ALLOW/TO DENYING, THEY ARE USING A “DOUBLE NEGATIVE” WITH THIS WORDING .  Double negatives cancel one another and produce an affirmation; changing the wording as they have, as well as the “Yes”/”No” issue reduces this ballot language to “DOUBLESPEAK” that deliberately disguises, distorts, or reverses the meaning of words.

ANOTHER DIRECT, CONCERTED, INTENTIONAL  EFFORT TO DECEIVE THE ELECTORATE.

More Citizens are Needed to Show Up to Voice Their Thoughts on
Ballot Wording & Term Limits

SEE THE AGENDA FOR THE BOARD OF COUNTY COMMISSIONERS’ MEETING THURSDAY, AUGUST 30, 2012:    http://bcc.elpasoco.com/Pages/ThursdayCurrentAgenda.aspx
SEE THE RESOLUTION HERE:     http://bcc.elpasoco.com/Documents/Agenda%20Items/Thursday/2012-08-30%201%20-%2015.pdf
 

HISTORY OF "I THINK I VOTED"

 

http://youtu.be/R3p50e6fERc
 

  The links below are all published articles, print & online, both local and national written about the EPC Term Limits Ballot Issue.  

 
  NATIONAL UPDATE - JUNE 25, 2011
  http://pblumel.blogspot.com/
 
 http://www.lawweekonline.com/?s=term+limits+controversy&x=26&y=8  LAW WEEK COLO. 11/14/10 EPC Term Limits Controversy
 
 
  "....example of political cunning embedded in the ballot itself, thanks to the El Paso County Attorney's Office..."
  "...Accordingly," Louis continues,"my office considered examples from other counties that had been successful and we incorporated those into the 2010
  question.  I can't think of any reason to write a referred measure unless you want it to be successful.  Otherwise it is just taking up space on a ballot."
  http://www.csindy.com/colorado/wording-is-everything/Content?oid=1893839
 
  "El Paso County Voters Wake Up To Term Limits Swindle"  & "New EP Commissioner Won't Let Term Limit Trick Stand"
   http://pblumel.blogspot.com/search/label/El Paso County
 
  "...taxpayer-funded retirement accounts..."
  http://www.csindy.com/colorado/benefit-of-the-doubt/Content?oid=2190866
 
  Representative Marsha Looper
  http://www.gomarsha.org/messages/message_2010nov29.pdf
 
  Getting National Attention
  http://www.csindy.com/IndyBlog/archives/2011/06/22/getting-national-attention 
 
  Other Gazette Term Limits Articles
 
  Sallie Clark asks County Attorney to explore all options, including commissioner reconsideration of the ballot issues & "I've heard from a lot of folks who want to know what the options are," she said, "and I think  we need to look at all the remedies that exist as it relates to the clarity of the ballot issue.  It's evident that not everyone understood the question." Nov 17, 2010
  http://www.gazette.com/articles/county-108199-confirmed-whether.html#ixzz1Q6hGxo6K
 
  "...Clark, for one, isn't leaning toward allowing a term-limit re-vote in November, saying, "I do believe voters have spoken on the issue.  We need to respect that vote."  May 19,  2011 (6 months later!)
 http://www.csindy.com/colorado/benefit-of-the-doubt/Content?oid=2190866
 
  Budget Points
 
 

Ballot Wording

State Senator Letter
To State Senators from EPC Dist.4,9,10,11,12

State Representative Letter
To State Rep. from EPC Dist.14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21

 
       
PostponementNotice857am.pdf
 

Listen - Listen - click on link AFP - CO - El Paso Co - P1 - 0622.wav click on link - Listen - Listen
 

AFP-Term Limits Post Card.pdf

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